**Beware SPOILERS** Obi-Wan Kenobi Series on Disney+ **Beware SPOILERS**
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IMO it's slightly less lifeless than the other episodes; agree with others there's the bones of a decent story here, and hints of even great moments
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but weighed down under plot conveniences, limp performances, tepid production, poor pacing, lack of logic, character derailments....wonder if Chow went home regretting signing up for this. Kudos to James Earl Jones for the voice work anyway.
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My son was born in 1994 and loves to PT. He enjoys the heck out of AOTC and TPM and I think ROTS is his favorite film overall. I liked them just fine when they came out and actually enjoy them more now...
I definitely think it’s an age thing. I was born in ‘97 so TPM is one of the first movies I can remember watching and I adore it.
I’ve been pretty disappointed and upset over the Kenobi show thus far, but the flashbacks in this episode did make me tear up.
Each to their own I guess!!
Great episode, much better than previous one. Though the cgi feel kinda cheap for the vader using the force scene.
also, the flash back scene kinda look forced since padawan ani look older than sith ani in eps 3 lol. At least kenobi look bout the same age during that era.
also, the flash back scene kinda look forced since padawan ani look older than sith ani in eps 3 lol. At least kenobi look bout the same age during that era.
After ep 5 …
nope, original lucas ver didnt have that power - only disney ver does lol
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Oh for sure I’m exactly the same. I think the general consensus for most people my age is that ROTS is the best Star Wars movie. That film is an absolute masterpiece, made even more enjoyable with supplemental material like TCW and the novelisation!
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Obi-Wan Convenience at it again.
The *one* person on Tatooine whom Reva asks for his name happens to be Owen.
The one person who finds and picks up Kenobi's communicator happens to be Reva.
The communicator has one message on it and it happens to be Bail Organa mentioning Tatooine and Owen by name.
You've gotta be kidding me!?
And all of this incredible long-odds happenstance is allowed to occur because Vader conveniently doesn't finish her off when he's standing next to a dude who just survived being stabbed in the gut by a lightsaber.
And, of course, this also comes after Vader conveniently decides not to pull down the second ship like he did the decoy one because... reasons.
I also have no idea what Reva was trying to accomplish in playing the long game with Anakin/Vader by knowing his identity, nor what Vader was trying to accomplish by playing the long game with Reva while knowing her true intentions. Was Vader using Reva because he felt she was smarter and more capable of tracking Kenobi than he was? If so, then wow that's terrible.
The *one* person on Tatooine whom Reva asks for his name happens to be Owen.
The one person who finds and picks up Kenobi's communicator happens to be Reva.
The communicator has one message on it and it happens to be Bail Organa mentioning Tatooine and Owen by name.
You've gotta be kidding me!?And all of this incredible long-odds happenstance is allowed to occur because Vader conveniently doesn't finish her off when he's standing next to a dude who just survived being stabbed in the gut by a lightsaber.
And, of course, this also comes after Vader conveniently decides not to pull down the second ship like he did the decoy one because... reasons.
I totally agree about Bail's stupidity being an epc fail. 100%! And this guy is supposed to help lead a secret rebellion!?
I also have no idea what Reva was trying to accomplish in playing the long game with Anakin/Vader by knowing his identity, nor what Vader was trying to accomplish by playing the long game with Reva while knowing her true intentions. Was Vader using Reva because he felt she was smarter and more capable of tracking Kenobi than he was? If so, then wow that's terrible.
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Add to that the peculiarity - and it's true of Anakin as well - that these beings slaughtered how many but their redeemed now so Reva is a hero I guess. The sudden Luke tie-in IMO was particularly cringe.Obi-Wan Convenience at it again.
The *one* person on Tatooine whom Reva asks for his name happens to be Owen.
The one person who finds and picks up Kenobi's communicator happens to be Reva.
The communicator has one message on it and it happens to be Bail Organa mentioning Tatooine and Owen by name.
And all of this incredible long-odds happenstance is allowed to occur because Vader conveniently doesn't finish her off when he's standing next to a dude who just survived being stabbed in the gut by a lightsaber.
And, of course, this also comes after Vader conveniently decides not to pull down the second ship like he did the decoy one because... reasons.
I totally agree about Bail's stupidity being an epc fail. 100%! And this guy is supposed to help lead a secret rebellion!?
I also have no idea what Reva was trying to accomplish in playing the long game with Anakin/Vader by knowing his identity, nor what Vader was trying to accomplish by playing the long game with Reva while knowing her true intentions. Was Vader using Reva because he felt she was smarter and more capable of tracking Kenobi than he was? If so, then wow that's terrible.
So right, she'll end up being another Luke protector completely unheard of up to now.
How about the convenience of Vader chasing a ship with the Death Star plans that happens to have his daughter on, who then sends the plans to the one planet with her twin brother on who happens to buy the robot with said plans off some Jawas who happened to drive by.
That's stretching it a little far there... Your entire logic starts off with a flaw... Plus she apparently knew Obi-Wan was on Tatooine. That's why she went there.
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I continue to enjoy this series. Thought the episode was fun and enjoyed the flashback stuff, although I would still like a Clone Wars team-up flashback so I can get my darned General Kenobi HT figure already!
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First of all, when talking about using plot conveniences *during the writing of a script,* please keep in mind that when ANH was written Leia was not intended to be Luke's sister. Hell, Vader wasn't even supposed to be Anakin Skywalker when that script was being written.
So while it may seem like crazy odds after the fact, the writing process wasn't just lazily throwing Vader's daughter/Luke's sister into the scenarios involving those characters.
Secondly, there's nothing convenient about Luke being on the planet that Leia is trying to retrieve Kenobi from since the whole reason he's there is to protect Luke.
However, the droids coincidence/convenience I will totally grant you. But overall storytelling quality will always dictate how much allowance there is for such things. Comparing the storytelling quality between ANH and OWK would be ridiculous. And nothing in that movie can even begin to touch the sheer volume of plot conveniences in this show, combined with the absurdity that so many of them carry in terms of implications.
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awesome episode. Loved Vader toying with Reva in that fight. That moment when he was holding both of the red sabres reminded me of the moment in episode III when he was holding both sabres before decapitating Dooku. They should have done the same thing here, actually - Vader should have decapitated Reva in the same way he did to Dooku - that would have been really cool.
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Fair points about Tatooine and Leia taking the plans to Kenobi, who was there to look after Luke.
Another convenient bit was Kenobi trying to take the plans to Aalderaan, which had just been blown up, but luckily the Death Star was still there and that's where they were keeping Leia as well, so it wasn't a completely wasted trip. It's a good job Tarkin was so cruel. Otherwise the plans would have been given to Bail and who knows, maybe the Death Star would have been blown up with Leia on board.
In fact, if Tarkin had left it a bit longer, Kenobi would have arrived on Aalderaan and the Death Star could have wiped Kenobi, Luke and the plans out all in one go.
I agree that certain things can be forgiven though if presented well enough.
Another convenient bit was Kenobi trying to take the plans to Aalderaan, which had just been blown up, but luckily the Death Star was still there and that's where they were keeping Leia as well, so it wasn't a completely wasted trip. It's a good job Tarkin was so cruel. Otherwise the plans would have been given to Bail and who knows, maybe the Death Star would have been blown up with Leia on board.
In fact, if Tarkin had left it a bit longer, Kenobi would have arrived on Aalderaan and the Death Star could have wiped Kenobi, Luke and the plans out all in one go.
I agree that certain things can be forgiven though if presented well enough.
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Yes, that's what I was just telling my son. I would've liked for him to mimic the movements he did when he had both his and Obi-Wan's saber in AOTC fighting Dooku and then scissor Reeva with them. That would've been some cool continuity.
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I enjoyed this episode a lot more. I just hate the "we're going to leave you to die, seeya later" thing.
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Obi-Wan Convenience at it again.
The *one* person on Tatooine whom Reva asks for his name happens to be Owen.
The one person who finds and picks up Kenobi's communicator happens to be Reva.
The communicator has one message on it and it happens to be Bail Organa mentioning Tatooine and Owen by name.
And all of this incredible long-odds happenstance is allowed to occur because Vader conveniently doesn't finish her off when he's standing next to a dude who just survived being stabbed in the gut by a lightsaber.
And, of course, this also comes after Vader conveniently decides not to pull down the second ship like he did the decoy one because... reasons.
I totally agree about Bail's stupidity being an epc fail. 100%! And this guy is supposed to help lead a secret rebellion!?
I also have no idea what Reva was trying to accomplish in playing the long game with Anakin/Vader by knowing his identity, nor what Vader was trying to accomplish by playing the long game with Reva while knowing her true intentions. Was Vader using Reva because he felt she was smarter and more capable of tracking Kenobi than he was? If so, then wow that's terrible.
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Every single time I see this ... I'm just confused. Like ... genuinely perplexed. Is it a mistake? Is it a joke? How exactly does that happen? I'm looking at it wondering where they could have inserted FX for it to make sense but there's ... nothing there.
All jokes and snide remarks aside, this shot is just plain weird.
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