HBO's House of the Dragon

No. Nope. No way. The last couple of seasons of GOT was so bad, I have no interest in seeing anymore.

I wonder what will people will ignore harder....this or the Avatar sequels?

I'm torn. I can't decide which is less interesting to me.

Teaser looks dated already... dark, broody, dramatic, self important.

Will watch if bewbs.

I’ll care about Game of Thrones again When George RR Martin gets off his ass and finishes Winds of Winter

greygoose said:

It kept getting better and better until it peaked. Unfortunately it took a dive in the last 2 seasons. The show has had its time. Will give this a watch in the hope that it's good.

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The show was only good until it hit the end of the books that are out

Sweet Rabbit said:

The show was only good until it hit the end of the books that are out

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Pretty much.

Why do people who claim nor to be interested in a show take the time to flood the thread with their nonsense. It's not like you will actually influence anyone to not watch it if they want to.

greygoose said:

Pretty much.

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everything after season 5 was trash

20 million dollars per episode !

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Have you watched the second trailer that was released recently? It looks good I can't wait for August ^^
The details of the costumes, the dragons and also the politics.
I read the book fire and blood so I can tell you that the period chosen for this series is great

I don't expect this to be what GoT was -- it can never be -- but I do hope its good. I'm in the mood to go back to that world again.

I will be watching this. I loved GoT, but the last season really destroyed it's legacy to be honest. I can't bring myself to watch earlier seasons, because I know that in the end it gets butchered to pieces.

However, this seems like a new and fresh take, and I'm definitely up for visiting that world again.

There they have the whole story in hand, so it will be better managed than Game of Thrones which had started to be less good when the directors had passed the book. Having read the fire and blood book, I can't wait to watch House of the dragon

The Entity said:

I will be watching this. I loved GoT, but the last season really destroyed it's legacy to be honest. I can't bring myself to watch earlier seasons, because I know that in the end it gets butchered to pieces.

However, this seems like a new and fresh take, and I'm definitely up for visiting that world again.

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The series starts to go downhill when they resurrect Jon Snow. I'm not sure if that's in the book but it felt stupid - even in a fantasy show.

greygoose said:

The series starts to go downhill when they resurrect Jon Snow. I'm not sure if that's in the book but it felt stupid - even in a fantasy show.

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Well, Jon gets stabbed in a mutiny in the last book as well. We just don't know if the means of ressurection is the same, because that hasn't happened yet in the books. Might never happen to be honest, because I've lost my faith in Martin ever finishing the books.

I think him being revived by Melissandre in the books would be the most logical way as well, but I think the whole lore and everything around it would be better. Melissandre is all about the Lord of Light and his reincarnation, but the show didn't dive too deep into that if I recall correctly. They left a lot of these deeper subjects out and left a lot of loose ends when the books ran out, so to speak.

I still enjoyed the show, though. All the way up to the end of S7. After that... yeah.

I don't mind the way they went with Daenerys, but it should have been a gradual change, should have been spread out over a couple more seasons. The thing I can't forgive them though is Jaime running back to Cercei like a little b****. That character had the greatest arc and should have become the Queenslayer along with the Kingslayer he already was.

I just can't comprehend those idiot showrunners who didn't seem to know what they head. HBO was willing to throw them all the money they needed and offer them all the time they wanted to keep this show going and finish it up nicely.
But I guess the Star Wars deal was more enticing to them. So they did a s****y rushjob with season 8 to move on to that. Then that Star Wars deal fell through because they did such a **** job. Well deserved I'd say. You reap what you sow.

Anyway, what's done is done. Hopefully this new show is good, because like I said before. Can't wait to visit that world again.

I didn't like Jaime's conclusion but I also hated what they did with Daenerys. It was just too much of a downer and reflected poorly on any characters who had believed in her - like Jorah.

Yes there had been portents of what she could become but it would have been permissible for those just to be 'red herrings' as it were. I think she should have stayed good. If one thing ruined the whole show for me that was it.

It needed one or two more seasons to end the series well.
It's because of the writers who had their eyes on a star wars project (who now don't).
We can clearly see that season 8 everything is linked together too quickly.
It's as if the first 2 or 3 seasons had been compressed into a single season, it wouldn't have been a pleasure to watch...

Brienne of Tarth crying in her nightie

Even with all the changes the show was great up until season 4, after it Dan and David had no more material to work of because Martin hadn't finished the books and he probably never will, they had only Martin's plans for the storylines and they ended up butchering just about every single story line they could, if you read the books you could already see how they wrote stuff more black and white than the source material, characters like Stannis and Tyrion for example are extremely complicated and layered in the books but on the show they just made one evil and one the good guy, they also removed important characters like Tysha, Tyrion's lover in the books and replaced her with Shae who is an extremely poor replacement, the seeds for the writting being bad without following the source material was already there, and for book readers it became very evident what was going to happen after season 5, the show was different, plotlines from the books were altered and rushed along to a mediocre conclusion that should not even be considered canon given where characters in the books are left off, for example Stannis is outside the Winterfell walls WITHOUT Shireen, so the chances he burns his daughter to melt some snow are extremely unlikely, it's more likely, Melisandre will sacrifice her at Castle Black, where she and her mother are both at to revive Jon whom was just murdered and is believed to be Azor Ahai by the witch, that's just one of the many examples of a butchered storyline, I won't even go into detail about Dorne, Barristan, Jorah, Euron Greyjoy and many others who were character assassinated and merged with several book characters that were cut because they wanted the show to only have 7 seasons.

Season 6 was more enjoyable that 5 for me, but still very poor in terms of writting, season 7 was probably when I truly realized this whole show was heading torwards a very rushed and senseless conclusion, the whole plot of getting a zombie from beyond the wall was so contrived it still makes my head hurt and season 8 was absolute trash, I was hopeful they would at least manage to give us some satisfying moments but no, they subverted our expectations because "oh nobody will see this coming!" it's the cheapest way to surprise your audience and on top of atrocious decisions like having Arya kill the Night King you make us suffer through absolute GARBAGE scripts that should've never made it to TV let alone win a ******* emmy, the whole Dany conclusion was poor and tasteless because Dan and Dave painted her and Jon as the two heroes of the story for years, not realizing they were removing all the nuance and faults of their characters in the books, essentialy dumbing them down for an audience who had been equally dumbed down by the point the last season air, and even though many cheered for moments like Arya killing the NK, Brienne ******* Jaime, the hound and mountain fighting, it became clear those were nothing but cheap thrills in a terrible script, not even the audience they had continuously duped into thinking they were watching grade A television ate the turd they put out in the end.

The real tragedy of GoT is that not only did the show fail but the books will suffer the same fate, since George R.R Martin will die before he even releases the Winds of Winter let alone finish the goddamn story, so we will forever be stuck with a mediocre, rushed and ultimately forgettable story that was not only butchered by it's adaptors but forgotten by it's own author as well, GoT was truly great at one point, but for all his criticism of Tolkien, George will never even reach his level, not matter how many nihilistic, edgy and disgusting material he writes, in the end TLoTR is timeless whereas GoT is ephemeral.

I will not be watching House of the Dragon, even if there's little chance to ruin the plot since all the material is already there I cannot support this franchise any longer, the network didn't care, the TV writers didn't care, George doesn't care, this show is just another way for those people to make money off the story that Martin has lost his interest in and will never finish, and I will not support that because the truth is I have lost interest as well, I once loved the franchise, I really did and now I just feel emptiness about the whole thing.