Well, no I highly doubt I would ever buy this, but I do think it's relatively accurate. Just picture his eyes open, but I'm pretty sure this was the screengrab they based the sculpt off of.
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Yeah - looks like you're right. So (again) - why put this "unnatural" look on a bust? - makes about as much sense as the pose/base/options on the main figure.
Still . . . at least they are being consitently bad with their choices
.
Also, I stumbled across this cool read about the stuntman for the falling down the building scene. It's terribly written, but you get the gist.
From this site: PREDATOR 2 FANBOY
R.David Smith is a one armed stuntman, he performed the infamous, cgi free predator
falling scene.He used only a thin rope...Here's a story he posted a few years ago at The Hunter Lair forum in 2011 :
" My name is David Smith, I have been a one arm stuntman for over 25 years.
I received an acting scholarship at Paramount Studios in 1981 and was soon
casted as one of the leads in a B rate 3-D movie called “Metal Storm the
destruction of Jerrod syn, I played Capt Baal son of syn. It was a road
warrior type movie, in fact the guy who played Jerrod Syn my father was
one of the leads in Road warriors. Anyway to make a long story short,
there were no one arm stuntmen at the time and they were saying how are
we going to do the stunts for this guy and make it look good? I said
I’ll do them, I’ll do the stunts. I was born missing my left arm just
below the elbow/ I was always very athletic, played All-star second base
and a very good receiver and quarterback.
After this movie word spread to other make up effects
and stunt coordinators that there was this one arm
guy who would do anything for a buck. That’s how I
met Stan Winston who saw the value of an amputee for
many effects where a limb maybe eliminated for an
effect Stan was one of our biggest supporters, help us
to get the word out to many Producers in Hollywood
including Steven Spielberg, who used us for “Artificial
Intelligent. Stan was not only a friend, but in my eyes
a great man who helped us to change the way Hollywood
viewed amputees, as an asset not a liability.
Predator 2 was a true gift for me and helped me put
Stunts-Ability on the map and helped change the way
people saw people who were missing limbs. Helped
change the stigma that people who were missing limbs
or in a wheel chair were weak helpless poor victims.
I know you all can see that I’m not the best writer,
so please bare with me!
Predator 2 was the wildest movie I had ever done, I was finally
working with the big boys, Stunt coordinator Gary Davis, Tony
Bruebaker and the 2 arm stuntman for the predator Brian Simpson.
These men were some of the best in the business and great guys
who truly supported me. Some of the stories I’m going to
share are not in order as they were shot. Now you have to
remember I didn’t start stunts-Ability until just after predator 2
, so if I had 2 arms I wouldn’t be working on this film, but I do
have one arm so I did. Close to the first week we had a meeting with
Gary, Stan Winston to discuss these 2-3 story fall, I’m not real
fond of heights, but for that kind of money hell yes. You get scale
per day which is a very good salary always over time, but stunt
players also got money per stunt ranging anywhere from $250.00 to $20,000,
I mean after P-2 I was able to buy a house!
So I showed up on location that afternoon in the worst part of Down
Town Los Angeles there is. Went over to Gary and they were rigging
some stunt gag, it was a 12 story building, I said hi Gary what are
you rigging, he said were rigging your fall, I said that’s not 2
stories! He said its 12 stories, he said 2 stories 12 stories if the
cable snaps you’ll be dead anyway! So I thought what the hell did I
get myself into. By the way a week earlier I spoke at a school where
they were merging a disabled school with a able bodied school and they
gave me a t-shirt and I told them I would where it during the fall,
big shot right? Well now I couldn’t back out. The great Tony Brubaker
who I first met when I coo-stared on an episode of A-Team came up to
me pulled me aside and said hey Dave if you don’t feel comfortable doing
this stunt just walk away and no one will think the less of you.
I said thanks Tony, but if I back out now how am I going to explain
this to 350 kids? I’d rather be a dead hero than a live chicken, he
laughed and said I got you!
It took 2 days to set this stunt up, I spent a lot of time on roof
looking down, boy that was way down and knew it was going to be one
hell of a ride! Well the night of the stunt, we had a meeting,
we were ready to go, at this time your training kicks in and they
focused on what needs to happen to sell this shot. I remember waiting
in my trailer, it must be what Astronauts experience, it’s a safe
launch to me it was will the cable hold or snap! They were putting
on my harness and rigging me to go, the make-up effect, Stan Winston’s
boys were putting on my predator stunt suit and every was making
sure everything was on and safety checked. The out fit, you stepped
in and zipped up the back, the stunt head went on and it clamped on
the back of head.
There was a small hole cut in the chest area for cable to hook on to
my harness. At this time I knew that this was the night! There was
a knock on the trailer door, it was 2 paramedics, they said straight
faced writing down some things, one asked what my blood type was,
the other was who should they contact if the cable snaps! I was joking,
but said get the hell out of here! I was to busy getting ready to
deal with my impending doom. So we went to the top of the building,
I was already wherein a like parachute harness underneath my predator
stunt suit, it was very busy on the roof, about 11-12 at night.
So I was ready as I could be, the Director Stephen Hopkins, I believe
don’t remember his last name, but he told me I needed to stay as
close to the building as I could so the claws, which were rigged
with chemical that would throw off sparks as they slide against
the building. The stunt crew got me rigged and adjusted me out over
the building only being held by the cable. The problem was the
harness was crushing my lower regions and was cutting off circulation
to my legs.
I knew from experience it’s always hurry up and wait. I didn’t
fight it just let the cable do its job and relax, at this time
I was ready! There was a delay! I had to hang out there for
over 40 minutes, by this time I could not feel anything below
my waist. This concerned me because I knew there were window
sills underneath me and I needed to be able to move my legs,
stay close to the building in order to sell the shot! Well
when Tony Brubaker (Danny Glovers” stunt double was on the
ledge, we were finally ready! All the shots you see with
Danny were shot in the studio, a duplicate ledge was built
, and all predators close up were shot later as well.
So it was quite on the set! Tap is rolling, speed Action! The cable was released, man it was quick,
I stayed as close as I could, get the claws to spark
and sure enough my legs were dead! Boom I hit a ledge
going down, I had a dear friend of mine and her husband
at the street level, her husband told me later she screamed!
So I was on the ground, couldn’t stand up, Gary Davis came
running over saying David are you alright? They all thought
I had at best broken my legs, I told him I was good just
couldn’t feel my legs because of circulation. He patted me
on the back said good job! I felt like God I’m really playing
with the big boys, who would ever thought that skinny one arm
boy would be working on the movie set, It changed my life forever.
Gary said you just got yourself $10,000.00 , they are checking
the shot now are you ready to go again if they need another
take? I said yes, lets do it 5 more times, I’ll be able to get
that Mercedes! Well unfortunately they got the shot, bummer,
my adrenaline was ready to go again and again!
The feeling I had was unexplainable, this is just one of my
stories about Predator 2.
I hope you all can read this and get an idea of what happened that night,
I apologize for any grammar errors or spelling."
From this site: PREDATOR 2 FANBOY
R.David Smith is a one armed stuntman, he performed the infamous, cgi free predator
falling scene.He used only a thin rope...Here's a story he posted a few years ago at The Hunter Lair forum in 2011 :
" My name is David Smith, I have been a one arm stuntman for over 25 years.
I received an acting scholarship at Paramount Studios in 1981 and was soon
casted as one of the leads in a B rate 3-D movie called “Metal Storm the
destruction of Jerrod syn, I played Capt Baal son of syn. It was a road
warrior type movie, in fact the guy who played Jerrod Syn my father was
one of the leads in Road warriors. Anyway to make a long story short,
there were no one arm stuntmen at the time and they were saying how are
we going to do the stunts for this guy and make it look good? I said
I’ll do them, I’ll do the stunts. I was born missing my left arm just
below the elbow/ I was always very athletic, played All-star second base
and a very good receiver and quarterback.
After this movie word spread to other make up effects
and stunt coordinators that there was this one arm
guy who would do anything for a buck. That’s how I
met Stan Winston who saw the value of an amputee for
many effects where a limb maybe eliminated for an
effect Stan was one of our biggest supporters, help us
to get the word out to many Producers in Hollywood
including Steven Spielberg, who used us for “Artificial
Intelligent. Stan was not only a friend, but in my eyes
a great man who helped us to change the way Hollywood
viewed amputees, as an asset not a liability.
Predator 2 was a true gift for me and helped me put
Stunts-Ability on the map and helped change the way
people saw people who were missing limbs. Helped
change the stigma that people who were missing limbs
or in a wheel chair were weak helpless poor victims.
I know you all can see that I’m not the best writer,
so please bare with me!
Predator 2 was the wildest movie I had ever done, I was finally
working with the big boys, Stunt coordinator Gary Davis, Tony
Bruebaker and the 2 arm stuntman for the predator Brian Simpson.
These men were some of the best in the business and great guys
who truly supported me. Some of the stories I’m going to
share are not in order as they were shot. Now you have to
remember I didn’t start stunts-Ability until just after predator 2
, so if I had 2 arms I wouldn’t be working on this film, but I do
have one arm so I did. Close to the first week we had a meeting with
Gary, Stan Winston to discuss these 2-3 story fall, I’m not real
fond of heights, but for that kind of money hell yes. You get scale
per day which is a very good salary always over time, but stunt
players also got money per stunt ranging anywhere from $250.00 to $20,000,
I mean after P-2 I was able to buy a house!
So I showed up on location that afternoon in the worst part of Down
Town Los Angeles there is. Went over to Gary and they were rigging
some stunt gag, it was a 12 story building, I said hi Gary what are
you rigging, he said were rigging your fall, I said that’s not 2
stories! He said its 12 stories, he said 2 stories 12 stories if the
cable snaps you’ll be dead anyway! So I thought what the hell did I
get myself into. By the way a week earlier I spoke at a school where
they were merging a disabled school with a able bodied school and they
gave me a t-shirt and I told them I would where it during the fall,
big shot right? Well now I couldn’t back out. The great Tony Brubaker
who I first met when I coo-stared on an episode of A-Team came up to
me pulled me aside and said hey Dave if you don’t feel comfortable doing
this stunt just walk away and no one will think the less of you.
I said thanks Tony, but if I back out now how am I going to explain
this to 350 kids? I’d rather be a dead hero than a live chicken, he
laughed and said I got you!
It took 2 days to set this stunt up, I spent a lot of time on roof
looking down, boy that was way down and knew it was going to be one
hell of a ride! Well the night of the stunt, we had a meeting,
we were ready to go, at this time your training kicks in and they
focused on what needs to happen to sell this shot. I remember waiting
in my trailer, it must be what Astronauts experience, it’s a safe
launch to me it was will the cable hold or snap! They were putting
on my harness and rigging me to go, the make-up effect, Stan Winston’s
boys were putting on my predator stunt suit and every was making
sure everything was on and safety checked. The out fit, you stepped
in and zipped up the back, the stunt head went on and it clamped on
the back of head.
There was a small hole cut in the chest area for cable to hook on to
my harness. At this time I knew that this was the night! There was
a knock on the trailer door, it was 2 paramedics, they said straight
faced writing down some things, one asked what my blood type was,
the other was who should they contact if the cable snaps! I was joking,
but said get the hell out of here! I was to busy getting ready to
deal with my impending doom. So we went to the top of the building,
I was already wherein a like parachute harness underneath my predator
stunt suit, it was very busy on the roof, about 11-12 at night.
So I was ready as I could be, the Director Stephen Hopkins, I believe
don’t remember his last name, but he told me I needed to stay as
close to the building as I could so the claws, which were rigged
with chemical that would throw off sparks as they slide against
the building. The stunt crew got me rigged and adjusted me out over
the building only being held by the cable. The problem was the
harness was crushing my lower regions and was cutting off circulation
to my legs.
I knew from experience it’s always hurry up and wait. I didn’t
fight it just let the cable do its job and relax, at this time
I was ready! There was a delay! I had to hang out there for
over 40 minutes, by this time I could not feel anything below
my waist. This concerned me because I knew there were window
sills underneath me and I needed to be able to move my legs,
stay close to the building in order to sell the shot! Well
when Tony Brubaker (Danny Glovers” stunt double was on the
ledge, we were finally ready! All the shots you see with
Danny were shot in the studio, a duplicate ledge was built
, and all predators close up were shot later as well.
So it was quite on the set! Tap is rolling, speed Action! The cable was released, man it was quick,
I stayed as close as I could, get the claws to spark
and sure enough my legs were dead! Boom I hit a ledge
going down, I had a dear friend of mine and her husband
at the street level, her husband told me later she screamed!
So I was on the ground, couldn’t stand up, Gary Davis came
running over saying David are you alright? They all thought
I had at best broken my legs, I told him I was good just
couldn’t feel my legs because of circulation. He patted me
on the back said good job! I felt like God I’m really playing
with the big boys, who would ever thought that skinny one arm
boy would be working on the movie set, It changed my life forever.
Gary said you just got yourself $10,000.00 , they are checking
the shot now are you ready to go again if they need another
take? I said yes, lets do it 5 more times, I’ll be able to get
that Mercedes! Well unfortunately they got the shot, bummer,
my adrenaline was ready to go again and again!
The feeling I had was unexplainable, this is just one of my
stories about Predator 2.
I hope you all can read this and get an idea of what happened that night,
I apologize for any grammar errors or spelling."
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That's so funny - what a coincidence . . . I found that site for the 1st time 2 weeks back when I did some google-foo when PRIME's pics came out.
REALLY badly laid out, but a HUGE treasure trove of information - lots of which I'd never read/seen before. I painstakingly read through every bit (despite the awful layout).
.
Yea, it's an absolute mess, but it's got some real gems in there; stuff you would never find anywhere else.
Python
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This bust looks amazing imo. I'd love a 1/2 line just like it, JH, P2, Wolf, Celtic, Elder, Berserker etc etc.... But not with current day Prime 1 prices.
I was thinking of buying this, but we'll see. You know they're going to rip us off, it's Prime 1 after all.
I was thinking of buying this, but we'll see. You know they're going to rip us off, it's Prime 1 after all.
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That shot is probably the longest and closest we see it in the film, so it makes sense they'd base the sculpt on that. Maybe if he were alive his mandibles wouldn't be folded quite so tightly in?Yeah - looks like you're right. So (again) - why put this "unnatural" look on a bust? - makes about as much sense as the pose/base/options on the main figure.
Still . . . at least they are being consitently bad with their choices
.
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It's like anything else though - you'd think (per GK & prepaint history) that it would be the "beauty shots" that would be the basis to use.
Well . . . unless you're PRIME1 creating 1:3 scale pieces
These folks would probably release a Pamela Anderson "Barbwire" statue with her ugly crying.
.
Well . . . unless you're PRIME1 creating 1:3 scale pieces
These folks would probably release a Pamela Anderson "Barbwire" statue with her ugly crying.
.
Interesting. ES is TBA, of course. Guess they're trying to net more bust sales to make up for potentially fewer statue sales.
Not going to lie, I'll probably bite. It's the best part of this statue by far and should display well with the JH bust. That comes to $1700 for the two best Predator sculpts I've ever seen. These aren't cheap by any means, but considering that Sano's 1/3 Big Chap bust cost $1200 ten years ago, they're not a bad value for a megafan either.
Guess you could say I've been worn down by too many crummy sculpts over the years.
Not going to lie, I'll probably bite. It's the best part of this statue by far and should display well with the JH bust. That comes to $1700 for the two best Predator sculpts I've ever seen. These aren't cheap by any means, but considering that Sano's 1/3 Big Chap bust cost $1200 ten years ago, they're not a bad value for a megafan either.
Guess you could say I've been worn down by too many crummy sculpts over the years.
Collectorcol
Super Freak
Might just get the bust. Seems better value, slightly.
I'm honestly shocked by the price. Legit thought they'd go with $999
I legit thought this was going to be $1099, and definitely nothing below $999. I'm not upset about this and with my $125 odd rewards points I might just take the plunge which takes it to the not too much over the $600 I wanted to pay for the original JH bust.
Python
Super Freak
I'm actually surprised by the price, even though it's still way too expensive for a 1/3 bust, I didn't expect to see a lower price than the JH busts, they can't have sold many of those at all.... The question now is why are they so expensive.
Also, the crappy pose from the main statue has affected this bust also. It looks great from the right hand side, but from the front as you'd expect to view it, not so much. I wish they would just rotate the heads on both the statue and this bust, it'd remove a lot of unnecessary awkwardness. I might actually get one of these, I do think it looks nice, but still, Prime 1 have made some poor choices in general with this P2 statue as a package.
Also, the crappy pose from the main statue has affected this bust also. It looks great from the right hand side, but from the front as you'd expect to view it, not so much. I wish they would just rotate the heads on both the statue and this bust, it'd remove a lot of unnecessary awkwardness. I might actually get one of these, I do think it looks nice, but still, Prime 1 have made some poor choices in general with this P2 statue as a package.
Wish they would've at least put out a helmeted version. The 1/4 already scratches my itch for an unmasked CH.
Whipped up this Photoshop edit to see what it could've looked like. I think this format suits the portrait well, perhaps better than the full statue.
Whipped up this Photoshop edit to see what it could've looked like. I think this format suits the portrait well, perhaps better than the full statue.
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For the price it should come masked and unmasked
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I'm actually surprised by the price, even though it's still way too expensive for a 1/3 bust, I didn't expect to see a lower price than the JH busts, they can't have sold many of those at all.... The question now is why are they so expensive.
Also, the crappy pose from the main statue has affected this bust also. It looks great from the right hand side, but from the front as you'd expect to view it, not so much. I wish they would just rotate the heads on both the statue and this bust, it'd remove a lot of unnecessary awkwardness. I might actually get one of these, I do think it looks nice, but still, Prime 1 have made some poor choices in general with this P2 statue as a package.
That's the single decent display angle for me.
Those decals will be interesting though!
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csutkakoma
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Prime 1 is really all over the place with their prices. That just shows they are pulling out the numbers from their greedy asses and see what sticks.
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